Fresh Import or Tried and Tested??

[chris g]

I did say "most", not all and why would I be trying to ruin the sales of UK cars Chris?

Don't make me go through the posts in the FS threads and look for cars with rust in them, because that will upset people!

"Most of the ones that have been in the UK for more than about 5 minutes seem to have been ruined by rust unless they have been protected by heavy underseal.

For that reason alone I would stay away from just about all cars in the UK."

The post speak for themselves Brad...

You dont see that your post puts a question against all UK cars for sale, "ruined by rust" and "stay away from just about all cars in the UK."

If you want to trawl for posts mentioning rust and point out where car has been ruined...

That's up to you

[miller]

BradC strikes again.....

Brad your comment kinda goes along the line of....

European guy '' so where are you from''
NZ guy '' Auckland''
European guy ''ah G'Day mate, I love Australia''

[bradc]

Emphasis on 'most' and 'just about'

Sounds perfect to me.

[chris g]

You just cannot see it Brad can you...

So those words are innocent...

Not likely at all to affect sales of "Most of the ones that have been in the UK for more than about 5 minutes..."

And I would suggest that regarding VR-4's for sale"...just about all cars in the UK"...and prospective buyers pass through this site...

So most of your words about just about all cars for sale have implications for this site...

[mattnz]

I too have looked at cars for sale in the UK and thought, "I would never buy anything that rusty."

Probably because we're used to no rust whatsoever. A well looked after car that has been driven regularly on salted roads still looks a lot worse than one that has not.

I realise that most of it is probably superficial, but those little rust spots around bolt holes and wherever really don't do it for me, purely because I'm used to being able to get a car without them.

[Nutter_John]

Ok I have looked at loads and loads of VR4's over the last 5 years , so far I have only seen one that has ever had a comment from an MOT about excessive rust , this car had lived by the sea most of it's life and was pure grott .

The rest of the cars with bad rust have never really been so bad that they can not be saved with some hard work and a good does of Dinotrol

[bradc]

Ahh well Chris, it gives the owners in the UK for something to strive for then.

[chris g]

Well whatever does it for you Matt is not an issue or whether rust is more visible in the UK, this is about careless and prejudicial comments about cars in the UK and for sale here at CVR4...

[bradc]

It wasn't careless. It was well intended to help the original poster to make a good decision.

[chris g]

Something to strive for...?

What the hell does that mean...?

Strive for a car well undersealed or as available in NZ, rust free...

Whilst your comments have no effect whatsoever as you see it...

[chugg]

Most of the ones that have been in the UK for more than about 5 minutes seem to have been ruined by rust unless they have been protected by heavy underseal.

For that reason alone I would stay away from just about all cars in the UK.

Thats just a stupid comment, (I know your not stupid brad, I've read alot of your other posts!) but it's like saying: 'dont buy an import because it will need a respray because the paint pigment will be bleached because of all the hot sun those lucky foreign sorts get'

Or

'Don't buy a car from New Zealand because it may have skidded off the road on all that sheep spunk thats all over their highways'

I think kinky afro sums it up nicely:

I got mine as a fresh import but if I were buying another right now I'd be looking at owners club cars. As it stands the way I see it...

Owners club
Usually in a better state of known service
Better value for money then importers

Import
Generally lower milage
Not exposed to uk weather/salted roads often garaged less likely to rust .

Mine has been in the UK since 2007, and is still rust free, it was underseadled as soon as it got here though here's a pic:
http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/attachm...3&d=1280093806

just underseal/waxoyl it and keep it clean and robets your mothers brother, and it will out live most of the other cars on the road.

[chris g]

Tell him to look out for rust in certain places or certain problems is being helpful to prospective buyer to help them make a good decision...

Posting what you did IS careless, unhelpful, scare-mongering and possibly damaging to sales of cars on this site...

Your rep goes down on here with that sort of post!

[bradc]

What about a pic underneath chugg?

[chris g]

What does asking for a picture do to help this thread...?

Nobody disputes presence of rust on UK cars...

Seeing a picture showing rust does not prove most of cars are ruined and that a prospective buyer should stay away from just about all cars in the UK...

You just cannot see that your comments are unhelpful and damaging...

Just step back from your position of knowing a lot about VR-4's and helping many people and see that your comments in this thread are bad for CVR4...

[Wodjno]

Or

'Don't buy a car from New Zealand because it may have skidded off the road on all that sheep spunk thats all over their highways'

[bradc]

Ohhh BS they 'are bad for cvr4'

Each person buying a car and selling a car just needs to look under their car to decide if it has no rust, very minor rust, or massive amounts of rust. It isn't that hard for the buyer to figure out if they want the car or not.

[chris g]

I give up...

This is not about looking for rust if considering buying

It's YOU stating UK cars are ruined by rust and should be avoided

You are just blind to implications of your posts...

[mattnz]

So it's true, but shouldn't be said?

[bradc]

Sounds like it yes.

[chris g]

It's true UK cars are ruined...?

or

It's true some cars will have rust and when considering buying look carefully...?

Which do you think is true and should be said...?