Tried and tested fix for brembo squeel

[Davezj]

it would be nice to try the perfomance friction route but they do come at a price.

i know you should never scrimp on brakes, but i never found the cheaper stuff i use to be in any way sub standard in the braking department, only the noise. the current pads i have are the first i have had that have made any squeal in the forward direction, that cound be to do with the fact they are coming to the end of the shamfered part of the pad. there is still a good 5-7mm thick slab of friction material left on the pads. so maybe there is somthing in the shamfer.
but if i remember correctly the carbotech XP8 and possibly the performance friction pads they don't have any chamfers on the leading and trailing edges anyway, which is something to think about.

[Nick Mann]

They are definitely not cheap, Dave, which is why I try to include a tongue-in-cheek comment when I mention them. I do find them a significant improvement over other setups too, though - in every situation. I liked my Brembos from the word go and even more after my first Brembo shod track day. BUT the squeel always spoiled my satisfaction. For me the PF stuff solved every issue and made the brakes better in every respect, cold, hot, high speed, repeated use and importantly noise.

I just thought it would be interesting to some that the PF stuff requires a clean DRY fitment.

[Davezj]

it wacky what works and what does not seem to work.
hopefully there will be some other people that take the performance friction leap and have equally good results. then as word spreads it will be like AMSoil ATF and everybody uses them no matter what the cost is and they become the norm.
then someone will source the disks and pads in bulk dirct from the supplier in a group buy and they bocome affordable to all.
but intil then i can't justify the cost to give them a try on a whim, it might be a bit different when i need to change both disks and pads together in a few years time. but until then i will be regularly regreasing mine with the hope the squeal does not come back.
i have got to rebuild my engine and turbos first.
i would love to be able to do a dry fit on my brembos as you have to be very careful where you put the grease and i can be doing without that when you are sitting at the road side in front of the house in the rain.
but those of us without a garage or drive way must take the rain as liquid sunshine and blessing, lol.

[Davezj]

Update

still squeal free, another 300 miles under my belt.

nice to be squeal free in both direction.

will keep you posted.

[Davezj]

just an update, about 2000 miles (could be more) and still squeal free.
this is a fix for me.

[Scanny]

i had a look on MLR last night regarding brakes and someone had asked about brake upgrades for an EVO 8. the usual stuff about braided lines and 6 or 8 pots came up but one thing that did appear a few times relating to brands rather than components was performance friction. they seem to be a popular choice for EVO owners which is obviously relevant to our cars too. carbotech and PF crop up a lot as top choices for pads although neither are cheap. it does depend on how you use the car though. you will want to shell out to make sure your car stays on the track but for 100% road use? i cant imagine brake fade would ever be a factor for road use so it would really come down to stopping power in an emergency but only occasionally and that is for an unlucky driver

[Nick Mann]

I use performance friction. I will continue to do so unless I really can't afford them when I need to change them. I have done track days and a fair amount of road driving on them and I am on my second set.

[Davezj]

nick just out of interest ho much do the performance friction pads and disks cost?
and would you recommend only using them together, or have you tried using just PF pads and standard disks?

[Scanny]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Car-Parts-...tsubishi&rt=nc

not sure why EVO 5/6/7/8/9 front pads are listed separately from the 10 when they are the same pads. its the rear pads that are different

[Davezj]

i was under the impression that the evo 10 brakes were bigger all round. well at least the disks are i think.

[Scanny]

same part number on carbotechs website but they are different on the rear
http://www.carbotech-europe.com/applications.htm

just checked camskill, no part numbers but the dimensions of the ferodo pads are the same on both models and the price is the same so its pointing to the same pads for both models

[Davezj]

just thought i would point out you can have bigger brakes (disks) all round without the need to change the actual calipers.
you just move them out from the centre of the disk and they give more stopping force.
so it is quite possible that the calipers and pads will be the same on a evo X as Evo 9. which is what i was alluding to in my previous post, when i said the disks were bigger.

however you seem to have answered your own question if you say the front are the same and the rear are different on the carbotech website.

[Scanny]

i bought EVO 8 calipers so i search for EVO 8 parts so no matter what the seller says, i know i am buying the right parts. with that method i cant go wrong. the only thing i need to do is choose the brands

[Nick Mann]

I have only ever used performance friction on the front. They didn't do rear stuff in the past, but it looks like I will be checking out that again when the time comes.
I have only used pf pads with pf discs so can't comment on how they work when not matched.

[stu]

Since fitting my Brembo's 18 months ago. I've always used red stuff pads fitted dry and never had any brake squeal at all.

[Davezj]

I have only ever used performance friction on the front. They didn't do rear stuff in the past, but it looks like I will be checking out that again when the time comes.
I have only used pf pads with pf discs so can't comment on how they work when not matched.

what sort of price are they though nick.

[Davezj]

what bedding procedure did you use and what anti squeal shims have you fitted, do the pads come with a rubberised backing, etc, etc.

you can just say i fitted these and got no squeal, details, details details. spill the beans start.

[stu]

No bedding in, just drove it like I stole it as always, standard Brembo shims and rubber backing on pads. Oh and by the way it's Stuart not start.

[Davezj]

i never was very good with the typing.

[stu]

Was that the info you were after ?