Anyone has a photo of stock VR-4 ECU?

[valmes]

Stock MAF is limited, above some point (frequency of more then say 2400 Hz), in providing ECU with an accurate information about the "Mass Air Flow" coming into the engine. Well, it has been discussed before… but as a general rule of thumb don’t go over 0,9 bar if you don’t have other mods. You will either get fuel cut, lean out or get “diminishing returns” in terms of additional power…

PS: Anyway our turbos are working out of their efficiency range, if pushed above 0,9 bar at higher RPMs. They can provide more air, but at cost of heating it... but thats another story.

[-LegnumVR4-]

Valmes a second hand ECU for a 6A13 VR4 is about $500nz.

[Kyoshu]

I have a spare ECU I could part with, but it's for 97 Auto.

[-LegnumVR4-]

The info i supplied came from a 96 auto ECU, if u could pop ur one open and compare the number on the chip to see if they are the same.

[valmes]

It seems like I might buy one here in Russia for about 120$. Will see next week.

[Mante]

Reply from Thomas Dorris of DSMLink:

"That processor does seem familiar, but without an ECU
here to verify, it's hard to say for sure. It's also very hard to know
if/when Mitsubishi might have changed anything in that ECU line up. For
example, in the 2G DSMs ('95-'99) there was a different ECU *every* year
with three different processors! The '98/'99 DSM ECUs used the MH7202F
processor, which we have just recently begun to play around with. It's
possible that your VR4 ECU is very similar to this one. If so, that
means it's reflashable (no EPROM).

So yeah, I'm interested, but it would be a hard market to enter with so
little information (we don't even get that car here in the states!). I
will definitely keep it in mind, though. If there's any chance you can
locate one of these ECUs for us, I'd be more than happy to take a closer
look. I'll re-imburse you for the expense, of course. It would also be
useful to get some pictures and/or processor numbers from other users
with different years of that car. It would be GREAT if Mitsubishi stuck
with one ECU design for 5 years in a row, but that's highly unlikely.
Do you know which year car that particular ECU you sent me pictures of
and the information below came from?

Thanks again,

Thomas Dorris"

let me know thomas's contact info..I live 40 min from them and actually have a spare ecu.

When I contacted them two months ago my email was replied to by just a "no sorry it wont work"....this is enlightning

[valmes]

check your pm box...

[Mante]

check your pm box...

Thanks to valmes I have an appointment next week with Dsmlink...this means bodywork is on hold ...again haha

[Mante]

...gone

[valmes]

good news!

[-LegnumVR4-]

Come spring I'll check back in with Thomas to see how everything has progressed.

Any update Mante?

[Mante]

...gone

[michaeli]

gone...????? Mante, do you mean you've been? or the ECU's gone (stolen) or what??

Really interested in how this turns out....

Valmes, do you know any more??

Mike

[Mante]

gone...????? Mante, do you mean you've been? or the ECU's gone (stolen) or what??

Really interested in how this turns out....

Valmes, do you know any more??

Mike

Gone as in, since its been customary for cutting end work to be placed in the "members area" instead of plain view there is no need for me to do my work and place it on this site... Information *to me* or knowledge should be given to anyone willing to learn not to those willing to pay for it..

[Kieran]

Gone as in, since its been customary for cutting end work to be placed in the "members area" instead of plain view there is no need for me to do my work and place it on this site... Information *to me* or knowledge should be given to anyone willing to learn not to those willing to pay for it..

So you're taking the 'moral high ground' as it were and removing traces of your work from the site, both for members but also for those willing to learn.... In one neat move you alienate both parties.

Mind you, I remember the 'Realistic 360bhp (click)' thread... Now Paul was (and still is) very willing, but you didn't feel the same back then, even though it was in the public area?

/Shrugs shoulders.........Well, if that's really how you feel, fair enough and I do see where you're coming from, but I disagree with your sentiments - and I feel a little disappointed that you feel this way.

[valmes]

Sorry to hear that Mante. I hoped you can get info from DSMLink guys firsthand.
I wasnt a member either at the time I started this topic... and didn't feel like keeping this info all to myself.

[michaeli]

oh for christ sake Mante... I'll pay you're f'in £20 then....

Have you completely lost the plot or what??? When you go into a shop to buy a pair of jeans, do you expect to be able to walk away from the shop with them on, WITHOUT paying for it??? NO....

Forums don't run themselves, it's a bunch of like minded people that pay a nominal fee to share knowledge and information, without it's members, there's no forum, and let's face it Mante....

DON'T BE ARROGANT ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THAT IT WAS YOU THAT FOUND OUT ABOUT THE ECU, IT WAS A MEMBER (VALMES) WHO CREATED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU, YOU SHOULD AT LEAST FEEL ENOUGH TO GIVE HIM THE INFORMATION#

Mike

[Paul Beazer]

Ok ladies, calm down.

I do agree with K and M that it does seems a bit arrogant, whilst i agree with the "willing to learn" comments, it seems a bit harsh to deny everyone on the site the oppertunity to "learn" more for the sake of the moral high ground!

As others have said these forums arent free to run and dont manage themselves. At the end of the day we're all here for the same reason. If all the info on this site was available to everyone FOC then the site would cease very quickly. Bandwidth isnt free y'know! I think some of us underestimate just how much goes into the smooth running of the site (me included!) and personally i think we all owe a great deal of thanks to those who give up their own free time in order to make this such a great place!

Anyway, rant over, SORT IT OUT!!!

[zentac]

Have to kind of agree with Mante on this, If I dont renew my membership this year, why should I ben denied access to stuff in the members area, especially when Ive writen/contributed to a lot of it.

I totaly disagree with the members only area, and anyone who asks for Information in the normal area will get a reply from me if I know the answer.

If cost really is such an issue move to a cheaper server!! I dont know what the costs are for the hosting you use but look at something like www.nearlyfreespeach.net thats where I host all my sites and its dirt cheap, and never a performance issue.

[enigma]

If I dont renew my membership this year, why should I ben denied access to stuff in the members area, especially when Ive writen/contributed to a lot of it.

If you were not a member, you would certainly not have *FREE* access to the BDA garage and/or spare parts................it does have its advantages.

The site does not run or pay for itself. At least one member is almost 4 figures down on the creation and running of the site over the last couple of years. Are you suggesting that this is OK? One person pays for everything and others just leech what they want?

Whilst I understand the sentiment of the complaint, what other logical way can we encourage people to contribute to the costs of the site if they can get everything they need for free?

At the end of the day if you are going to quibble over £20......................so be it.