Originally Posted by Legnum Boy
IMHO, BIGGER Fuel pump is the first stage to go to.......rather than FCD...then BANG!!!!! at present my BC is turned off for this very reason...
Originally Posted by Legnum Boy
IMHO, BIGGER Fuel pump is the first stage to go to.......rather than FCD...then BANG!!!!! at present my BC is turned off for this very reason...
Do you use FCD? Consult with RR guys... They will tell you for sure (with wide band) if you're leaning out on this setup. IMO, it should be fine up to 0,9 bar... but I raised FP just to be on a safe side...Originally Posted by Legnum Boy
Can't wait to see pictures from Dave They just might turn me into "vegetarian", boost-wise ))... nah, I'll just buy another engine!
Last edited by valmes; 25-01-2005 at 11:48 AM.
WOW! :rolleyes5Originally Posted by valmes
Have you been on the Vodka?
"WOW!
Have you been on the Vodka? "
No... it's too early!
Of course it should read 0,9 bar
Corrected it.
Last edited by valmes; 25-01-2005 at 11:40 AM.
The standard injectors will quite happily run an uprated pump, I am and they are fine but you need a fuel controller or similar and get it mapped properly.
Richard Batty
2.5ltr V6 Turbo FTO
The capacity of the pump doesn't matter unless it is not enough!
You can have a pump that pumps 1000 litres per second and you wont gain anything (except a flat battery!) The fuel pressure is set at 43psi and the flow required is determined by the injectors.
Mine was running lean with the FTO pump, so had to uprate it.
Stock FTO (6a12 NA) pump vs. VR-4 (6a13TTI) pump... there is a difference!!!
I cannot help but have a smile reading this thread
I remember the discussions here about doing things to the engine to protect it/ensure longevity if increasing boost/pursuing more power
And here we are with a number of blown engines amongst us
It seems making changes and checking value of these changes by driving in a straight line/to still be the fastest/have low ET does not work out in the end
Unless you want to loose the use of the car and sell scrap engines
Whereas you could really enjoy the speed AND handling AND 4wd AND ayc of the VR-4 by driving at tracks and especially 'ragging' it around the Nurburgring Nordschleife
And still have a car to drive AND sell on to another owner for them to enjoy the car
Hopefully around the bends rather than just up the straights
And still have a car to drive home and use each day
...Hear what you say, but that's just...............
BORING!!! :sleep: :-D
It's not been a futile excercise, just as with car manufacturers... We've only learnt about these cars, where the limits are, what to do and what not to do by making them go faster... Mitsubishi didn't produce cars like the VR-4 and the EVO without pushing the boundaries. We're just continuing their research! :-b evil5: And you can't make an omlette without breaking a few eggs....
Kieran
:beerclash
I don't mind blowing up couple of engines for a "cause"!!!
Where do we start..........!!!!
Seems to be working out just fine thanks Chris, as with all things its a calculated risk. Where I may push the engine to its ultimate limits, you are pushing tyres, AYC, etc etc to their limits and will pay the price in different ways. Each to his own I guess.Originally Posted by chris g
I lost use of my car for 3 days, thats not a big deal really! As for the scrap engine, well its not scrap at all, it will be rebuilt stronger and faster! Whether it be for my car or the project car, it will be back!
I hear what you are saying/preaching about the Ring, but having been on track I am always a little disappointed with it. After several minutes it gets a little samey and the buzz kind of dwindles. Sure the VR4 handles really well, but a track car it isnt. Its fun on the track, but then so would my wifes Punto be!Originally Posted by chris g
No one will get their mits on my car, its in the family for the duration...........I love it so much!Originally Posted by chris g
My car gets used every day, and has clocked up 30k since I bought it 18 months ago. 1 New engine at £1000 in this time is small beans compared to the £6000 I have spent of fuel, £2000 on service items, £2000 on insurance etc etc etc.Originally Posted by chris g
At the end of the day we all choose to do different things with our cars, to me a standard car is a complete waste of potential! Until you have experienced the thrill of developing your own systems which aid or improve power, doing your own tuning, and releasing something that is truly fast.............dont knock it! :-b
Remember, I have taken a 6 second 0-60 car and turned it in to a sub 4 second one, and it still handles - you cant expect to do this on a budget without risks! Why do you think the RC Developments EVO cost near £200k? Or the Sumo Skyline even more!
Well, after 'timeworn defeatism', 'naysaying' its now 'boring'
The art of conversation is not dead then, at least as far as the witty brief response is concerned
Time to draw a veil over further posts I think
But before I go, Dave, it is a good track car at the Ring but despite how much I loved my VR-4 and would have preferred to keep it in the family, I cannot take it with me in the Air New Zealand 747 to Hamilton, NZ
It could have been exported by container but with a new job and a new home to get used to, dealing with the paperwork, specialised steam cleaning to protect NZ from microbes and viruses and relicensing for a year before maybe having to export it back to uk was just too much
Remember I am tired and defeated so this really was too big a task
Still, see what fun can be had in NZ - a new car, bungee jumping, river jet boating
Hope they are not too boring
Enjoy the straights Dave and dont go lean
It may be a good track car, but its not a great track car as it stands. Same way that its not a great drag car as it stands. Tell me how quick do you lap? Can you beat the Jag Diesel?Originally Posted by chris g
Been there, done all that, dont forget glacier walking though.Originally Posted by chris g
Been there, done that too - I am sure it wont be the last time either!Originally Posted by chris g
Originally Posted by valmes
Even in the UK, Dave's proved that a Blown VR-4 engine isn't a disaster. £1000 for a 2nd hand VR-4 engine with things like the turbos, the pumps, etc. still attached is a bargain!....
If it weren't for the small problem that my front wheels would never have any traction ever again, I would be tempted myself!!! :$
Oh well... A truly fast car isn't just about maximum bhp or torque... So for now my efforts will focus on making my V6 transmit it's power effectively, without the alarming wheel hopping action!! :rolleyes5
I have some good video footage of your car with its front left wheel smoking in 2nd gear!
It appears I was driving and you were commentating!
....That's not difficult to achieve in Hordak! :$ ...Originally Posted by bigdaveakers
When Derek had a blast up the track in it, he came back after the run and said, with wide eyes, "It's all over the f&$%@#g place isn't it?!" "I don't know how you drive that in a straight line!!!" :$ :$
Last edited by Kieran; 25-01-2005 at 11:53 PM.
Can we recount what YOU said after driving Dereks car up the strip? Especially with the comparison to a standard VR4?
Ok, before or after I picked my jaw up off of the floor? Have a look at the "Still the fastest" thread for my brief appraisal of Derek's car... :-DOriginally Posted by bigdaveakers