which tyres?

[Scanny]

im not liking falken 453s or 914s so i am looking around. plenty of budgets around but i wouldnt put them on a performance car. what i have found:
yokohamas
toyos
both big names and a full set for under £300 but which are better for grip in wet and dry?

[Nube]

I settled with Vredestein in the end Ultrac Vortis. Still in the 'bedding in' stage but feeling awesome so farl. Really nice feedback,not massively noisy and nice and stable. They came in at just over 300, went with them in the end as had a play with my friends Audi which runs them and rated them. Was chatting to a customer who runs them on an RS6 also and said they were the best he'd found so far for something big and heavy and powerful. Not really pushed them hard yet but all good so far.

[Confused]

I think the T1-R is too soft for a car as heavy as ours.

I've been very happy with the Hankook Ventus V12 Evo tyres on mine.

[adaxo]

When I need tyres I will definitely try this one http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Ha...2-evo-k110.htm, apparently they has been designed for evo's

[TAR]

What's wrong with the Falken FK453? Its a very new tyre have you tried it?

[MarkSanne]

I've driven at least 3 sets of Toyo Proxes T1R. They're 'affordable', they grip, quite good in rain, but they do wear out a bit faster.
I've had Goodyear Eagle F1's and those were even worn out faster. Now I'm going to try the Bridgestone Potenza RE050A's, as they seem to be grippy, quality, good in wet and quite durable. Seems ideal for our cars.

[adaxo]

Now I'm going to try the Bridgestone Potenza RE050A's, as they seem to be grippy, quality, good in wet and quite durable. Seems ideal for our cars.

I'm on them atm, nothing special, a bit too hard, IMO not worth to pay extra premium.

[Scanny]

What's wrong with the Falken FK453? Its a very new tyre have you tried it?

they dont look as good as the 452

this is all assuming that i am correct and the wheels i am going to see on saturday wont clear my brakes. the guy reckons they will and have nearly new falkens on them but im less optimistic so i am looking at a contigency plan in the shape of a new set of tyres

[WOODY72]

What! Don't look as good, this is about grip or have I got it wrong? Mind you, a woman at a bus stop said my old GSD2's look "sexy" for a tyre! Rubber fetish no doubt!

[Scanny]

you can have grip AND looks

the 2 types i linked to are both cheaper than i could get a set of 452s for before they were succeeded. i always thought of falken as mid range and toyo and yokohama as higher up but prices dont seem to reflect that which is a factor in my choice. i dont want a soft tyre due to them wearing too quickly and being rubbish in the wet. i want a reasonably firm compound but with decent wet weather handling too

[Nube]

Vredesteins do look sexy Giugario designed tread apparently...

[mike74]

Vredestein's FTW!
I thought the Toyo's were excellent in the dry & lasted well but, in the wet they were terrible. Falken 452's weren't too bad but not as good as the Vredestein's IMO

[Scanny]

i have a set of vredsteins winter tyres and thought they were brilliant but i dont have any comparison so i cant really judge them as a brand. any winter tyres should run rings round a summer tyre on a cold or icy road. i dont know what their summer tyres are like but everyone seems happy with them

[TAR]

I have run several sets of Falken FK452's on my legnums and I've always found them to be superb in dry and wet. I've just bought a set of FK453's so I'll let you know what I think in the near future.

I also thought the tread pattern was not as appealing to the eye but they are now asymmetrical rather than directional.

Soft premium tyres just don't last on our heavy cars but if you are only after grip, then there are some nice Yokohama tyres available (A048 Advan - very grippy or the Advan Neovo AD08)

[WOODY72]

I'll try another way then, looks don't matter, GRIP does!

[Scanny]

I'll try another way then, looks don't matter, GRIP does!

which is why i am choosing a tried and trusted brand rather than budget tyres that look good but dont grip

[elnevio]

@miller may have some opinions on the Yokohamas!

Now that the FK453s are asymmetrical, I have a feeling they will be my next set of tyres!

On the VR-4, I've preferred the feel of asymmetric tyres to directional across various brands/models.

[Spirit]

I went back to Goodyear F1's, the Asymmetric 2 version. Not as cheap of course, but been very happy with them and fantastic reviews.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Go...ymmetric-2.htm

[Scanny]

i dont think i have ever used assymetrical tyres before. what difference do they make?

[Spirit]

Here's a good definition of them:

"Asymmetrical tyres are those which have a tread pattern that is different from one side to another - ie non symmetrical. Tread patterns vary, some giving particularly good dry grip, some have characteristics designed to enhance wet performance. An asymmetrical tyre offers the best of both worlds by combining the two patterns across the width of the tread.

The outside of the tread pattern consists usually of larger stiffer tread blocks that help with cornering performance whilst the inner blocks are particularly suited to wet performance. Very often, asymmetric tyres feature a continuous central rib in the pattern that aids straight-line stability. Asymmetric tyres must be fitted with the correct side facing outwards - this is marked on the sidewall of the tyre - to get the best performance. Some asymmetric tyres are also directional and in these cases the vehicle will have specific "left" and "right" handed tyres. Tyres such as this are usually only found on ultra high performance vehicles."