OVERHEATING & Absolutely Clueless What To Do Help Needed

[Davezj]

Thermostat working or not will not cause the sort of problems experienced in starting the car. I think all this cooling system talk will turn out to be a red herring. If an experienced tuner shakes his head and laughs at a dyno print and mapping file then what should this tell you. I speak from my own experience with mapping done by the same person as Coney. I was not too impressed and had to get it corrected.
At least mine would start without problem but ran like a dog until warm. No such problems now. Cold start mapping adjustments along with other tweaks were required.

no it will not, it is obvious that this guy does not have one problem, i am just responding to the request for help in overheating issue.

[coney]

BTW when you get a reply to your email to Eurospec I'd be interested to hear what their take on it is, if you don't mind sharing of course.

Yes apeman no problem at all mate anything to help get it sorted out its been a sleeping beast for way to long & needs its lazy ass waking up! i might help any others who might have the same problem in the near future!

[swinks]

Seconded to Alan regarding bad tune. Cold start issues, rough idle etc. It's not an easy job to setup good maps for heavily modified engine, sometimes you will need to sacrifice some to achieve goal in other areas. Especially if you run very aggressive camshafts with high lift and big turbo. Anyway, it's job for good reputable tuner to work out and address issues.
I can recommend following places for you Neal, but you have to be aware that it's gonna be uneasy talk with tuners (usually they not keen on putting back together someone other job), and also it will involve some serious money, so here is the list (not particular order):
- Gaz @CPP (near Crewe)
https://www.facebook.com/cpp.motor.developments
- Mark Shead @M.A.Developments (Berkshire)
http://www.madevelopments.com/
- Anthony @Indigo-GT (south Wales)
http://www.indigo-gt.com/
- Nick @NR Autosport (Lincoln)
http://www.nr-autosport.com/
- Lee and Bob @Dynotech (east London)
http://www.hayesdynotech.co.uk/
- Mat @M.G.Autos (Nottinghamshire)
https://www.facebook.com/MG-Auto-Mot...4185953013720/
just to name the few...

Good luck Neal!

[coney]

Seconded to Alan regarding bad tune. Cold start issues, rough idle etc. It's not an easy job to setup good maps for heavily modified engine, sometimes you will need to sacrifice some to achieve goal in other areas. Especially if you run very aggressive camshafts with high lift and big turbo. Anyway, it's job for good reputable tuner to work out and address issues.
I can recommend following places for you Neal, but you have to be aware that it's gonna be uneasy talk with tuners (usually they not keen on putting back together someone other job), and also it will involve some serious money, so here is the list (not particular order):
- Gaz @CPP (near Crewe)
https://www.facebook.com/cpp.motor.developments
- Mark Shead @M.A.Developments (Berkshire)
http://www.madevelopments.com/
- Anthony @Indigo-GT (south Wales)
http://www.indigo-gt.com/
- Nick @NR Autosport (Lincoln)
http://www.nr-autosport.com/
- Lee and Bob @Dynotech (east London)
http://www.hayesdynotech.co.uk/
- Mat @M.G.Autos (Nottinghamshire)
https://www.facebook.com/MG-Auto-Mot...4185953013720/
just to name the few...

Good luck Neal!

Cheers swinks much appreciated, i been in touch with ben from Eurospec & he's said he will arrange for the car to be picked up & take a look at the car for me i'm sure ben will be able to sort these issues out what do you think?

[Nick Mann]

Ben would be my choice. He knows VR4s and Vipec.

[coney]

I'm trying to organise it now with ben i've got a feeling its going to cost a pretty penny to get the car down there it works out to be about 3 half hours away.

[giblet]

I'm trying to organise it now with ben i've got a feeling its going to cost a pretty penny to get the car down there it works out to be about 3 half hours away.

Have a look for transporter quotes on Shiply.com

[coney]

Will do Gib thanks alot buddy

[coney]

Well i've tryed searching Shipsy & a few other websites but can't get the car down to Ben for this weekend,I'm not quite sure why Ben wanted it for this weekend but i look like having to phone him & trying to get it down for sometime next week if he isn't to busy to take delivery of it.

[Davezj]

just out of interest how much were quoted to transpost the car?

[Louis]

There are a few car transporter guys on ebay based around Yorkshire, ( can't remember where about in uk you are)

[Davezj]

I am in Manchester, but I was just wondering on the price for maybe future purchases of cars.
Is it fixed initial price then £1 a mile after that if so it would make a 250 mile pickup a bit pricey.

[apeman69]

I think Louis was replying to Neal, Dave.
When I last got a quote a few years ago it was a fixed initial fee plus cost per mile. I would imagine there's a general 'industry' standard pricing policy such as this and then the odd company which will be open to negotiation on a price.
For me it turned out cheaper (and more enjoyable) to drive 150ish miles to a port, pay for 4 passenger ferry fares, a car ferry fare back, then 2 cars driving the 150 miles from the port. What I'm saying is that it isn't the cheapest of transport options but then it's a monopolistic industry...... in rip-off Britain!

[coney]

just out of interest how much were quoted to transpost the car?

From Eurospec they quoted me £475 to take it there i'm assuming the same back.

[coney]

just out of interest how much were quoted to transpost the car?

Sheffield mate well Rotherham to be exact

[coney]

I am in Manchester, but I was just wondering on the price for maybe future purchases of cars.
Is it fixed initial price then £1 a mile after that if so it would make a 250 mile pickup a bit pricey.

From where i am to eurospec its 181 miles down M1 & 201 miles down M40, like i said earlier Eurospec quoted me £475 which included petrol/diesel & food, on shiply it was between £260 & £300 there so i should imagine it will be the same back.

[coney]

I am in Manchester, but I was just wondering on the price for maybe future purchases of cars.
Is it fixed initial price then £1 a mile after that if so it would make a 250 mile pickup a bit pricey.

From where i am to eurospec its 181 miles down M1 & 201 miles down M40, like i said earlier Eurospec quoted me £475 which included petrol/diesel & food, on shiply it was between £260 & £300 there so i should imagine it will be the same back.

[coney]

I think Louis was replying to Neal, Dave.
When I last got a quote a few years ago it was a fixed initial fee plus cost per mile. I would imagine there's a general 'industry' standard pricing policy such as this and then the odd company which will be open to negotiation on a price.
For me it turned out cheaper (and more enjoyable) to drive 150ish miles to a port, pay for 4 passenger ferry fares, a car ferry fare back, then 2 cars driving the 150 miles from the port. What I'm saying is that it isn't the cheapest of transport options but then it's a monopolistic industry...... in rip-off Britain!

I would have a drive down if it wasn't for fear of melting something down in the engine it's just not worth taking the risk imo.

[Gowf]

This thread is a it of a joke Neal. We have spoken about the issues with your car and why they are there. This engine is no longer a standard 6a13tt. As for what is wrong with it, it may have lifted the heads when it ran 2bar.. Bearing in mind that at 1.2bar it made 540bhp which is Clearly something to be laughed at. As for caring I do.... I currently work for a motorsport company where I map and run £150K engines for endurance racing.... But what do I know about engine calibration? Why has it been taken From gr performance? Your knew the deal eat due to time.if you would like to continue slating me online neal you will soon hear from my lawyer

[billybobboot]

Sounds more like its cooked the head gaskets if it over heats that quickly. 2 sounds like at all that boost the heads have lifted. 3rd i dont understand who build your engine to the point you cant fit 2 fans in ok yes there isnt loads of room but ive got the stock heat sheilds on and have a 52mm thick rad and 2 fan units run from the stock fan relay and i can still see daylight past the fans and heat sheild let a loan the turbos. I put your clearance down to poor design and very poor thinking before building.