My single turbo pics and results!

[foxdie]

Speedo is not working Jason that's malfunctioning.....lol
and yes 95 octane and water meth.
will be visiting the dyno again soon hoping to cross the 400whp mark will make a proper video this time showing the dyno results this time lolz......

I look forward to it. Any VR-4 making more than 350 HP interests me greatly

[Davezj]

The dynos we have in trinidad can only read WHP Dave.Stock cams but plans are being made to install some regrinds from adam soon,
Car made that 380whp on 95 octane gas and water meth which helped a lot to keep knock under control.
Plug gap was reduced from 0.8mm to 0.6mm which cleared up the spark plug blowout.The aim was to make 400 WHP on a stock head/block,coils,wires etc.
Didn't expect to make that amount of HP due to the stock manifolds we used but i guess porting the outlet flange to 2'' helped alot....

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That is a cracking result. particularly as you only have 95 octane fuel.
thanks for posting back with the answers.

i too look forwand to the next installment of the dyno runs. looks like some good videos to come.

[Davezj]

Only 380 Awhp @ 20 psi with T3 turbo ?? You have a big problem Sir ....

Saf

@SAF68 would you like elaborate on your statement.
the majority of the people on this forum do not have the tuning background that you have, so making a statement like that is not very helpful.
if you would like to make some helpful and constructive comments they are always welcome and i would like to hear what you have to see on the situation.
what exactly is so bad about it.

[rajvr497]

I await his comments,Dave!
because to me stock manifolds,stock heads,stock block hell everything is mostly stock and a journal bearing t3/t4 turbo 380-400whp @ 20-24psi for me is a great accomplishment.

[Bobby~d]

Great job Raj. Keep up the great work pal.


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[CANDEE]

Is the turbo a TA3410? and what exhaust housing are you using?

[rajvr497]

Is the turbo a TA3410? and what exhaust housing are you using?

It's a garrett t3t4 turbo Jeremy,60trim, A/R 0.63 turbine housing

[rajvr497]

Thanks alot bobby!

[CANDEE]

It's a garrett t3t4 turbo Jeremy,60trim, A/R 0.63 turbine housing

Will be interesting to see the compared results when mine will be running - TA3410(60-1) with the .82 exhaust housing. But i have a custom manifold & regrinds.

[SAF68]

I all ,

First you need to understand the limit of the stock plenum , stock thorttle body ... with same parts on tinny 19t vs T3 , i made 485awh

Look the engine of my old setup to confirm :

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T3 move a ton of air vs 19T ..@ the same boost you can have the same power that i made or for sure more...

Many peoples want to go with big plenum , Big TB , Big fuel ramp , bigger valves ...But how many guy know the HP limit off all parts ?? Trust me , just a little bit ...

To know the limit , it's not very difficult , just show the mitsubishi family and all dyno with stock and performance parts .. For exemple , see the GTO/3000GT , Diameter of stock TB , volume of the stock plenum and you'll understand With same diameter or volume , the GTO can go to +800awhp

Remember , to make power , you'll need AIR and timing ( of course , fuel to have a good mixture ) The Mitsubishi galant parts is not restrictive to give you more air.
An other exemple , check the valve size of 6A13TT vs 2JZ Supra
Sorry all , but it's very difficult for me to explain in English , with French , no problem ..

Please all , stop to spend a lot of money on stupid performance parts ..Remember , some performance parts are only for buisness and win a lot of money but no more power ...
For me the best way if you want to upgrade your engine go with :

-First : Flowbench of the heads ( remember more Air = more power , engine is an air pump no more)
-Cams ( little bit more duration and lift )
-1 big turbo T3/T4
-Fuel ( walbro 485lph and bosh injectors )
-Conrod and piston
-Change the ****ing coils with stock 3000GT
-Change the ecu with stand alone

ENjoy 600/700awhp easy

Saf

[Adam.Findlay]

I all ,

First you need to understand the limit of the stock plenum , stock thorttle body ... with same parts on tinny 19t vs T3 , i made 485awh

T3 move a ton of air vs 19T ..@ the same boost you can have the same power that i made or for sure more...

Many peoples want to go with big plenum , Big TB , Big fuel ramp , bigger valves ...But how many guy know the HP limit off all parts ?? Trust me , just a little bit ...

To know the limit , it's not very difficult , just show the mitsubishi family and all dyno with stock and performance parts .. For exemple , see the GTO/3000GT , Diameter of stock TB , volume of the stock plenum and you'll understand With same diameter or volume , the GTO can go to +800awhp

Please all , stop to spend a lot of money on stupid performance parts ..Remember , some performance parts are only for buisness and win a lot of money but no more power ...
For me the best way if you want to upgrade your engine go with :

-First : Flowbench of the heads ( remember more Air = more power , engine is an air pump no more)
-Cams ( little bit more duration and lift )
-1 big turbo T3/T4
-Fuel ( walbro 485lph and bosh injectors )
-Conrod and piston
-Change the ****ing coils with stock 3000GT
-Change the ecu with stand alone

ENjoy 600/700awhp easy

Saf

Are you serious?
a pair of 19T TD04's will deliver a hell of a lot more air than a single T3/T4 ever could.
although this build does leaves alot to be desired in the likes of reusing stock manifolds etc he has done bloody well to get the power he has done on a limited budget (not everyone can afford forged pistons, conrods and stand alone engine management). and trust me I know a thing or two about these engines.

I would like to see you make 700whp from a T3/T4 the same size as used on this car. try that out and let me know how it goes.

[Humpty's Revenge]

[SAF68]

Yes i'm serious , how much cfm delivery the 19T HL vs Precision 6466cea or 6262R or old GT3082R or GTX T3 turbo???

Please , give me an answers and you'll see that i'm right .. This a link to help to decid about your answer : http://www.stealth316.com/2-turboguide.htm

I would like to see you make 700whp from a T3/T4 the same size as used on this car. try that out and let me know how it goes.

Excuse me with respect but looool !!! Do you know my new setup ? Do you know what i have on my galant? Do you know how many awhp i have now with stock heads, stock cams , stock valve ?

Answer is No , but to make easy , i will go with my camera to make a movie just for you and and manys pictures about my setup , and you'll understand how much awhp i have ... To be sure , more than 800awhp..

Saf

[rajvr497]

hey SAF do you have the dyno chart showing that you actually made 487whp?
i am not saying that you are not telling the truth,its just looking at an engine cant really tell me the power output also i will just like to compare it with mines...
and the t3t4 turbo is not really a big turbo its only efficient till 490whp.Another thing is i strongly believe that a pair or TD04 19T's will supply a lot more air than the t3t4.
also you need to remember nothing was done to this engine and its components everything factory........

[Adam.Findlay]

TD04HL-19T peak flow is 44 Lb/min

60 trim T3/T04E aka T3/T4 is 53 Lb/min

a pair of TD04HL-19T turbos flows 1.6 times more air than a 60 Trim T3/T4 can.

giving Raj's power figures if you extrapolate it out purely from an airflow stand point, the extra airflow pair of TD04HL-19T's would provide over a T3/T4 would be 380hp x ~1.6 = 608hp

I think you are getting your turbo sizing confused. just becasue a turbo has a T3 turbine flange does not make it a T3/T4 turbo. A T3/T4 is a hybrid very commonly used it utilises parts from two old garret 'T' series turbos. the turbine from a T3 turbo and the compressor from a T04E. this promotes betterspool up than the T04E turbo and more airflow than the T3 turbos. this is in no way comparable to a Precision 6466cea, 6262R, garrett GT3082R or GTX series turbos.

the more modern precision, Garrett, Holset, Borg-Warner etc are great turbos but we aren't talking about those here.
My point was if you were to use a old T3/T04E 60 trim the same as Raj has used and you used it on an equally stock engine the way he has you would have similar results.

go on then chap. prove to me you have a 800whp 6A13TT..

[Nick Mann]

hey SAF do you have the dyno chart showing that you actually made 487whp?
i am not saying that you are not telling the truth,its just looking at an engine cant really tell me the power output also i will just like to compare it with mines...
and the t3t4 turbo is not really a big turbo its only efficient till 490whp.Another thing is i strongly believe that a pair or TD04 19T's will supply a lot more air than the t3t4.
also you need to remember nothing was done to this engine and its components everything factory........

Raj - check out this thread by SAF:
http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthr...-to-talk-loool
Although he hasn't updated it yet to 800bhp!!

[swinks]

TD04HL-19T peak flow is 44 Lb/min

60 trim T3/T04E aka T3/T4 is 53 Lb/min

a pair of TD04HL-19T turbos flows 1.6 times more air than a 60 Trim T3/T4 can.

giving Raj's power figures if you extrapolate it out purely from an airflow stand point, the extra airflow pair of TD04HL-19T's would provide over a T3/T4 would be 380hp x ~1.6 = 608hp

I think you are getting your turbo sizing confused. just becasue a turbo has a T3 turbine flange does not make it a T3/T4 turbo. A T3/T4 is a hybrid very commonly used it utilises parts from two old garret 'T' series turbos. the turbine from a T3 turbo and the compressor from a T04E. this promotes betterspool up than the T04E turbo and more airflow than the T3 turbos. this is in no way comparable to a Precision 6466cea, 6262R, garrett GT3082R or GTX series turbos.

the more modern precision, Garrett, Holset, Borg-Warner etc are great turbos but we aren't talking about those here.
My point was if you were to use a old T3/T04E 60 trim the same as Raj has used and you used it on an equally stock engine the way he has you would have similar results.

go on then chap. prove to me you have a 800whp 6A13TT..

Thank you Adam!
I thought no-one gonna step in and provide some simple facts.

[scott.mohekey]

Excuse me with respect but looool !!! Do you know my new setup ? Do you know what i have on my galant? Do you know how many awhp i have now with stock heads, stock cams , stock valve ?f

No, because you're incredibly cryptic and keep everything very tight lipped as if it's all trade secrets.