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@SAF68 would you like elaborate on your statement.
the majority of the people on this forum do not have the tuning background that you have, so making a statement like that is not very helpful.
if you would like to make some helpful and constructive comments they are always welcome and i would like to hear what you have to see on the situation.
what exactly is so bad about it.
I await his comments,Dave!
because to me stock manifolds,stock heads,stock block hell everything is mostly stock and a journal bearing t3/t4 turbo 380-400whp @ 20-24psi for me is a great accomplishment.
Great job Raj. Keep up the great work pal.
Dw@r!k@
Is the turbo a TA3410? and what exhaust housing are you using?
Thanks alot bobby!
I all ,
First you need to understand the limit of the stock plenum , stock thorttle body ... with same parts on tinny 19t vs T3 , i made 485awh
Look the engine of my old setup to confirm :
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T3 move a ton of air vs 19T ..@ the same boost you can have the same power that i made or for sure more...
Many peoples want to go with big plenum , Big TB , Big fuel ramp , bigger valves ...But how many guy know the HP limit off all parts ?? Trust me , just a little bit ...
To know the limit , it's not very difficult , just show the mitsubishi family and all dyno with stock and performance parts .. For exemple , see the GTO/3000GT , Diameter of stock TB , volume of the stock plenum and you'll understand With same diameter or volume , the GTO can go to +800awhp
Remember , to make power , you'll need AIR and timing ( of course , fuel to have a good mixture ) The Mitsubishi galant parts is not restrictive to give you more air.
An other exemple , check the valve size of 6A13TT vs 2JZ Supra
Sorry all , but it's very difficult for me to explain in English , with French , no problem ..
Please all , stop to spend a lot of money on stupid performance parts ..Remember , some performance parts are only for buisness and win a lot of money but no more power ...
For me the best way if you want to upgrade your engine go with :
-First : Flowbench of the heads ( remember more Air = more power , engine is an air pump no more)
-Cams ( little bit more duration and lift )
-1 big turbo T3/T4
-Fuel ( walbro 485lph and bosh injectors )
-Conrod and piston
-Change the ****ing coils with stock 3000GT
-Change the ecu with stand alone
ENjoy 600/700awhp easy
Saf
3000GT 1430awhp and 1132nm twin 6466CEA @ 44 psi + Galant VR4 type-S 701awhp @ 1.7 bars 6466CEA + Galant GDI to 4G63 ... In progress
Are you serious?
a pair of 19T TD04's will deliver a hell of a lot more air than a single T3/T4 ever could.
although this build does leaves alot to be desired in the likes of reusing stock manifolds etc he has done bloody well to get the power he has done on a limited budget (not everyone can afford forged pistons, conrods and stand alone engine management). and trust me I know a thing or two about these engines.
I would like to see you make 700whp from a T3/T4 the same size as used on this car. try that out and let me know how it goes.
Last edited by Adam.Findlay; 03-05-2016 at 09:43 AM.
Yes i'm serious , how much cfm delivery the 19T HL vs Precision 6466cea or 6262R or old GT3082R or GTX T3 turbo???
Please , give me an answers and you'll see that i'm right .. This a link to help to decid about your answer : http://www.stealth316.com/2-turboguide.htm
Excuse me with respect but looool !!! Do you know my new setup ? Do you know what i have on my galant? Do you know how many awhp i have now with stock heads, stock cams , stock valve ?I would like to see you make 700whp from a T3/T4 the same size as used on this car. try that out and let me know how it goes.
Answer is No , but to make easy , i will go with my camera to make a movie just for you and and manys pictures about my setup , and you'll understand how much awhp i have ... To be sure , more than 800awhp..
Saf
hey SAF do you have the dyno chart showing that you actually made 487whp?
i am not saying that you are not telling the truth,its just looking at an engine cant really tell me the power output also i will just like to compare it with mines...
and the t3t4 turbo is not really a big turbo its only efficient till 490whp.Another thing is i strongly believe that a pair or TD04 19T's will supply a lot more air than the t3t4.
also you need to remember nothing was done to this engine and its components everything factory........
TD04HL-19T peak flow is 44 Lb/min
60 trim T3/T04E aka T3/T4 is 53 Lb/min
a pair of TD04HL-19T turbos flows 1.6 times more air than a 60 Trim T3/T4 can.
giving Raj's power figures if you extrapolate it out purely from an airflow stand point, the extra airflow pair of TD04HL-19T's would provide over a T3/T4 would be 380hp x ~1.6 = 608hp
I think you are getting your turbo sizing confused. just becasue a turbo has a T3 turbine flange does not make it a T3/T4 turbo. A T3/T4 is a hybrid very commonly used it utilises parts from two old garret 'T' series turbos. the turbine from a T3 turbo and the compressor from a T04E. this promotes betterspool up than the T04E turbo and more airflow than the T3 turbos. this is in no way comparable to a Precision 6466cea, 6262R, garrett GT3082R or GTX series turbos.
the more modern precision, Garrett, Holset, Borg-Warner etc are great turbos but we aren't talking about those here.
My point was if you were to use a old T3/T04E 60 trim the same as Raj has used and you used it on an equally stock engine the way he has you would have similar results.
go on then chap. prove to me you have a 800whp 6A13TT..
Raj - check out this thread by SAF:
http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthr...-to-talk-loool
Although he hasn't updated it yet to 800bhp!!