Brembo Conversion with Adapter or Fl Hub carriers ???

[Kenan]

Hey Guys,
i know here are many Threads about Brembo Conversion,
but nobody here is talking about the another choice,only the Option with Fl Hub carriers.

Next season i want to a Brembo or D2 Big Brake Kit conversion on my Pfl.
But I am not sure if i do it with Fl Hubs or Adapter like these one ???
What do you mean ??

http://www.go-performance.de/index.p...edea43551649cd

or

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mitsubishi...item19d0400907

[Davezj]

I have looked in to making a calliper bracket for a pfl direct to evo brembo caliper with standard size evo brembo disks, and it cannot be done sensibly.
The pfl hub carrier bolt hole are too close to the caliper hole to put a bracket in between. If you hold the evo calliper next to the pfl hub. Carrier you can fit one on top of the other and there is about one hole distance between the other.
You have 2 options really
1. Get much bigger disks 360mm instead of 320mm to make the space between calliper and hub carrier much greater so there is enough room to fit a bracket.
2. Source a different type of brembo calliper which is radial mount so they need a bracket to bolt up to the hub carrier.

If you search on something like brembo bracket you will find this has been talked about before.
I can put up pictures of the overlap if you want.

By the way the first link is a radial mount caliper bracket and the second link is the 360 disk that makes room for a normal type of bracket.

[Longbow77]

I've got the DB 360 kit on my PFL, using the standard PFL hubs. The kit is great - massive disks and a really easily installation. No complaints/issues at all, so I'd recommend it.

[Davezj]

What size wheels did you have to to buy to fit over those monster disks.

[crazydriver81]

Kenan, the Go Performance adaptor is for the Porsche/Audi Brembo calipers and not for the Evo ones. Keep that in mind.

I'd go for the ebay big brake kit with 18" wheels. I have swapped the hub carriers to do the Brembo conversion and we had massive problems to get the driveshafts out, plus you need the correct ABS sensors for the hub carriers.

[Longbow77]

What size wheels did you have to to buy to fit over those monster disks.

18's were fine, but the SSRs do have a relatively thin inner rim profile - it was a bit of a gamble but worked out ok. I really don't understand why more peeps with PFLs don't get this conversion, as it is so easy to install in comparison with the hub carrier swap method. Plus the discs look fairly impressive too lol............ I am 95% sure that they are the same ones used on the Range Rover Sport, just with the PCD re-drilled very slightly to suit.

[Davezj]

Just to put another slant on the comments above, I have done a couple of brembo conversions with FL hub carriers and I have never had problem with drive shafts, and the abs sensors have come with the hub carriers.
Just a different spin on it.
To do a full evo brembo convertion (front & rear) you are looking at around £600-£1000 depending on what extra you have to buy, wheels, tyres, disks, pads, braided hoses.
Just a heads up on the full cost.

Just thought I would point out as well he big brake kit you linked to is only for the disks and brakets to mount the calipers, it does not include the calipers and pads. £319.
The front caliper could cost you £200-£300 and £30-£100 for pads depending on quality. But that is only for the fronts. Plus the wheels and tyre needed.you are looking at £1000 just for the fronts.

[Kenan]

Kenan, the Go Performance adaptor is for the Porsche/Audi Brembo calipers and not for the Evo ones. Keep that in mind.

I'd go for the ebay big brake kit with 18" wheels. I have swapped the hub carriers to do the Brembo conversion and we had massive problems to get the driveshafts out, plus you need the correct ABS sensors for the hub carriers.

OK,the Go Performance ist out of play

I have use the Search here,and i have read so much about the conversion that i know like nothing now
When i do it with Fl Hubs,must i press out the complete wheelbearing of my Pfl with the abs ring and press it in the Fl hubs or what???


Longbow77

I've got the DB 360 kit on my PFL, using the standard PFL hubs. The kit is great - massive disks and a really easily installation. No complaints/issues at all, so I'd recommend it.

Have you a link for me where it is be selling ??

[Wodjno]

http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthr...rake-Group-Buy

[Davezj]

OK,the Go Performance ist out of play

I have use the Search here,and i have read so much about the conversion that i know like nothing now
When i do it with Fl Hubs,must i press out the complete wheelbearing of my Pfl with the abs ring and press it in the Fl hubs or what???


Longbow77

I've got the DB 360 kit on my PFL, using the standard PFL hubs. The kit is great - massive disks and a really easily installation. No complaints/issues at all, so I'd recommend it.

Have you a link for me where it is be selling ??

ABS ring is on the stays on the drive shaft
hub can be removed with a socket, extension bar, bug hammer. once the hub carrier is removed, support carrier face down so Hub is off the gound, undo each hub bolt by about 2 turns each put socket with extention bar on the back of the hub bolt and hit it with hammer until hub drop a bit, then udo bolts some more, whack it again, repeat untill hub drops out. use plenty of WD40 or similar.
easy.
or you could press it out with a hydaulic press if you have access to one.

if you search in the library there is a good write up on doing a brembo conversion.

[Kenan]

Ok, I´ve made my choice
90% i would do this conversion : http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthr...=big+brake+kit


But not sure if i do it with Adapters or Fl Hubs

[Davezj]

You don't have any choice with that kit. You have to use brackets a they. They radial mount calipers.
You would need a different bracket if you used a pfl or fl hub carrier. So if D2 can provide either style of braket you don't need to change the hub carriers.

[Kenan]

That's right, I said that already
I've read too much here
which brings me to a sometimes confused

You're right

[crazydriver81]

Kenan, if you are planning to use the PFL hub carriers, you need to look for a brake kit for the Mitsu Eclipse D30 models...
http://racingshop-germany.com/K-Spor...x32mm-8-Kolben

If you are planning to swap to FL hub carriers, I'd go for an original Brembo setup off an Evo with 320mm rotors and 4 piston calipers. If you want to have K-Sport / D2 brake kit aswell, you are looking for any setup for an Evo6-9

As said, if you have questions or need a propoer set of calipers, drop me a PM.

[Kenan]

Hey people,have bought the kit from Windsor (thanks) ,
today i have started to do the conversion and at first everything goes corect
but i can´t get out the old brakeline to fit the new brakelines .
the screw which is on the top (M10) is still damged.

Somebody any idea what is the best to do with this tangle ???

Thanks Kenan