parklight fuse and hid wof problems

[SEAN-NZ]

so i took my car in for a wof, failed, on a couple things, my biggest concern is the fuse that keeps blowing, the number 8 fuse, as pictured, i think it may have blew when i put the new battery in, but it just blows it every time i turn the park lights on.

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also failed on hid with projectors, apparently they are illegal, but i this is what i read on the nzta site

HID conversion kits (an HID bulb with a high voltage power unit or ‘ballast’ which fits into the original headlamp unit in place of the original bulb with no change to the headlamp lens, reflector or housing) are illegal on any vehicle being used on New Zealand roads.

However, a complete halogen headlamp unit can be replaced with a complete HID headlamp unit provided that the replacement headlamp unit complies with approved standards. If in doubt, get advice from a vehicle lighting retailer you trust.

the part in yellow is the part that is making me wonder. The lights arent using the reflectors, they are using projectors, so i would think, so long as the aim and pattern is right, they should be fine?

did a bit of looking around here first, found this thread
http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthr...ht=hid+illegal
but that doesnt give a definite answer, it is glys old car by the way

[SEAN-NZ]

found the fuse problem, after blowing 7 fuses, i got into the car to move it back onto the road, saw that the wof guy had tried to turn on the non existent fog lights, turned it of, put in another fuse, turn on lights, fuse didnt blow, yay, i have all working lights again. Now i need to sort out the hid legality issue

[CANDEE]

I had HID Cibies in my car which came on it from Japan and went through compliance, vtnz & other by the book people no issues.

If they are the correct ones ie, they have the proper HID lense it should be fine. If they are just HID bulbs without the lens its bad.

Just take in the virm off the nzta site and explain where they have gone wrong. If they still have a problem, tell them to contact NZTA for clarification.

Oh and remove the spot switch, as that can be a fail too...

[SEAN-NZ]

I don't know how exactly they are set up, what exactly do you mean by lens?
I just unplugged fog light switch, they didn't mention it still being in, might remove it if I get a blank cover to replace it

[SEAN-NZ]

if you mean lens as in the projector, like the cibies, then yes, it does
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[Kenneth]

HID conversion kits (an HID bulb with a high voltage power unit or ‘ballast’ which fits into the original headlamp unit in place of the original bulb with no change to the headlamp lens, reflector or housing) are illegal on any vehicle being used on New Zealand roads.

I put the critical bit in bold and underlined. This is the bit you need to beat into the inspector. I had a problem once at the sunnybre AA WOF centre, but have had no trouble otherwise (no issues at VTNZ Cambridge).

The problem is probably that while they know what the rules say, they don't know why - since it is obvious that if the lights have a correct cut-off pattern and can be adjusted correctly for height, there is no reason to fail them.

[SEAN-NZ]

Yeah that's what I was also thinking, because mine clearly don't use the original reflectors, considering the fact they aren't fitted anymore, IL be going in and getting the re check tomorrow

[Gly]

yeh cant help anymore than every one else has, i never had an issue with them where i WOF'd but thats a little far from you,

[SEAN-NZ]

still trying to argue my case with the lights, before i went back to vtnz, i called nzta, they reffered the the lvv people, talked to a guy there that agreed with me, although did make it clear they cant be certed, then tried to take it back to vtnz, tried to tell guy, almost word for word what i have read, he said speak to supervisor, told him the same thing, even told him what the lvv guy said, his response, "what do they know". Ended up leaving without the wof, and very angry. Feel like im getting somewhere now though, been told to send photos, and a detailed description of what was done, so im going to do that

[Badger_01]

Go to a different warrant place for the "recheck"

[Bender]

Sean, if you need a pair of headlights to use to get your wof, Let me know as I have a pair sitting at home that you can use to get your wof

[SEAN-NZ]

Too much of the wiring has been changed I think, was thinking about just getting a set from pick a part, but I'd rather get them to concede, and I really want to rub it in the wof people's face haha

[SEAN-NZ]

But worst case scenario, IL figure out some kind of quick change setup haha

[Gly]

its not un-plug and replay, the original sockets have been removed, and some extra creativity was needed due to the factory lights using a switched earth to trigger the factory lights,
and the park lights have no plugs as they run the ballast for the halo's

i always recommend never using a vtnz/on road or so called testing stations,

[SEAN-NZ]

if only i had known how much of a moan they where going to have, they seem to think just because they are hid (and not from factory), they are unsafe on the road, having dodgy beam pattern and causing way to much glare

[Subaru ETA]

Can they show you that the beam pattern is dodgy?
Have you printed out the relevant part of the VIRM and shown them? Better still, can they show you?

[SEAN-NZ]

They won't even check beam, just jumping to conclusions, everyone I've contacted has read the virm, they reckon even if they pattern was good, they still wouldn't be legal, because they aren't factory, or complete replacement, as in, they are saying I can't even use the factory casing, I have enough time to keep harassing them about it though, seems like the virm was just a 5 min write up to try and keep people from doing a stupid plug and play using the original reflectors

[Badger_01]

Go to a different wof place and see what they say

[SEAN-NZ]

Thought about that to, but they'll know what the car failed on last wof, and I'd rather not pay again, unless my free recheck time runs out

[Kenneth]

Ring around and ask to talk to an inspector. Explain the issue and tell them that your current WOF place won't even check the light pattern. They should tell you if they would be willing to check and if so, pass if the light pattern is good.
If so, get their name, thank them very much and go see them.